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Post by Modesty on Sept 25, 2006 11:07:12 GMT -5
I did get the Coven idea from Neo-Paganism. (I spent the past year studying the religion. Did a research project and everything).
Polaris is actually the name of the North Star. XD
I also like the Omega institute. My votes for that one. And I also like Institute of Magical Arts (or Arts Magical if you want to switch it up).
Taking bulls by horns that's what I do.
Azzy, if you put in a character that'd be great. Think about it.
Living Situations I'm going to elaborate on this real quick...okay...not really quick at all.
Students live in "Student Villages". They're sort of a community where students live in their own huts/apartments. >>Singles: a student can live by him or herself in a single hut. They have their own bed, desk, a tiny plot outside for practice, a kitchenette and toilet. They have a community shower. >>Doubles: 2 students in a hut/apartment have their own beds, 2 desks, little more land outside for practice, kitchen, living area, toilet and shower. >>Doubles Dexluxe: 2 students again. Each have their own rooms and desk, a common living area, a bathroom with shower, and kitchenette. >>Quads: up to 4 students. A room with 4 beds. Study area with 4 desks, common room,full kitchen, 2 bathrooms with shower >>Quads Dexluxe: 4 students. 4 bedrooms with desks, common room, full kitchen, 2 bathrooms with bathtubs and showers. >>Apartments: Range from 2-4 occupants. Full kitchen. Several rooms for bedrooms or studies, 2 full bathrooms. >>Married Housing: Only for legally married couples both with or without children. 1 master bedroom. 2 full bathrooms. Full kitchen. guest/children's rooms. Large common room. a Study. This housing is also near a daycare center. >>Sororities/Fraterinties?? We could have these too. ^^
Outside the dorms there are also HOUSES for rent. A large group of students can live there. Gives them basements and garages to mess in. (You know for chem labs and metal shops).
That's what the individual houses will include. In the dorms roomates must be of the same gender, Married housing is the only exception. (or if they decide to rent a house).
These "dorms" are located in little village communities. The villiages provide them with all their needs: grocery stores, book stores, cafes, restaurants, bars, shopping areas, medical facilities, drug stores, and various supply shops. (They can also get jobs here.) The Currency is "Credit" which works in both schools.
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Post by mystfyredragon on Sept 28, 2006 19:30:07 GMT -5
OKIE. I asked Rich if he had any ideas. He mentioned something about maybe one of the principals was evil and wanted to steal the youth from the students. I don't know that youth would work, but maybe some sort of essence? It could also be the alterior motive for the tournament you guys keep talking about.
He also said that there should be a student that had an accident with a spell and got transformed into a dog. Only no one knows about it, so they just thought he was a hyper-intelligent and possibly magical dog. So they keep him in the critter lab. :B
He said he'd like to see a villian (I personally don't think it necessarily has to be the main villian) that has a lot of depth... that has a reason. It'd be interesting to see both sides of the issue. :B
*asked him 'cause like, I'm braindead* :B
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Post by Modesty on Sept 29, 2006 9:41:14 GMT -5
XD The doggie idea sounds fun. I'm sure one of the artists can try working that in.
A Villianous motive may be a good thing to discuss. Usually it's easiest for a story to have one main head villian with many subordinates. All though we don't have to make the teachers/faculty evil. I dunno, I think it's kind of over done. Although positions of power does kinda equal corruption now doesn't it? Hmm.
Myst via Rich suggests the faculty want something that the students posess. Another motive suggested is one school is richer than the other and therefore has more materials. This may be fun because students can sneak over to the other side to cause pranks, steal and stuff. XD There's always the segregation route and we can get into racism.
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Post by mystfyredragon on Sept 29, 2006 19:28:25 GMT -5
I had an idea about a character that might be one of the ones doing the dirty work, though that depends on what motive is decided on. (And on a side note, maybe it could just be someone sponsoring the tournament, and not necessarily someone in the faculty? *shrug)
She'd be doing said dirty work for the sake of her brother. So it's not exactly that she's evil; nor is she exactly opposed to whatever sort of damage she's doing to the other students. It's just that she doesn't really give a crap about anyone but her family.
*shrug*
I dunno if I'm gonna bring her in or not, it really does depend on what sort of plotness we work up.
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Post by bluebug on Sept 30, 2006 14:27:21 GMT -5
My brain's running with the idea that my character Dai (the demon) is possibly the owner of the school. He's not the "ultimate" evil in the story, but he's inherited the school from his demon grandfather. His demon grandfather was actually shunned by the rest of his family because he created the school to accept everyone, regardless of bloodline. So demons, elves, fairies, humans were all accepted equally. He wanted the school to be an educational institution (imagine that!) . The reason he was shunned is that demons teach their spawn to fight and maim and generally wreak havoc. Demons possess others in order to use them. "Teaching" isn't part of the demon philosophy.
Dai's grandfather gave the school to Dai (rather than Dai's brother) because Dai (at that time) was a pretty decent character. He was happy to run with his grandfather's philosophy, whereas his brother wanted to use the school for his own purposes.
Unfortunately, some terrible tragedy happened and Dai left the school in the hands of the headmasters for a very long time (ie. none of the students know of him). The tragedy skewed his world views and he returns to the school to use the students for his own goals. Unbeknownest to everyone, he wants to turn the students into his own personal army. Hmmm .. perhaps this is what the tournament is about? He wants to weed the good from the bad and use the best students as his own elite force.
Dai either keeps down this path or he decides to take up the cause of the greater good when he is reminded of his grandfather's wishes.
Myst: We should totally call the dog Fred. XD
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Post by mystfyredragon on Sept 30, 2006 15:11:54 GMT -5
Go Fred!
I kinda like that idea, bb. :B Though I'm wondering 1) if Dai is the sort to blackmail someone into doing his bidding and 2) what the hell Verran could have done to piss Dai off enough that Haisyn has to do said bidding to save his butt.
Verran's lazy, only hears what he wants to, and tends to flirt with anything female that strikes his fancy. So maybe he did something 'cause a pretty girl dared him to. :B He's dumb like that.
If not Dai maybe another demon that wants Dai to get his little army and... do whatever the hell it is he's planning to do with it. o.0
*random thoughts*
Where is everyone else in this duscussion anyway? You and Mod are the only ones that seem to be paying attention. XD Though I guess FK is a little busy getting pages ready or something. :B
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Post by faronkaos on Sept 30, 2006 15:44:52 GMT -5
Actually...I'm still working on my character profile sketches. =p I was hoping you guys would come up with some kind of opening plot so I don't totally screw up the opening. xD Seriously, don't leave it all to me to make it up. I've got school and hw too, you know... =p
If y'all can decide on which charas you want to be friends, at the very least, and which ones you wanna introduce this round, and any particular way you want them intro'd, that'd be great. ^^; I really can't let myself start drawing without knowing what all of you want.
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Post by bluebug on Sept 30, 2006 21:02:18 GMT -5
Ah, blackmail. Persuasion for weaklings. Dai would simply give everyone "gifts" which would have the power of mind control. My thinking was that he comes in and announces that he's back to reclaim the school and "return it to its former glory". Essentially he's saying the headmasters screwed up and that all the students the school has put out in the last few decades have been all namby pamby.
So, he decides that the first thing the school needs is a new image, or insignia. All the students are required to wear it (likely its a new pin, or a school ring or some such). Since its uniform issued, everyone has to wear it. See? Uniforms do suck XD
This Dai has the potential to be heartless like that, Mod. I'm treating this is as a parallel universe. So Dai is a demon and he had a completely different life than the Dai in my comic (and possibly different family ... though maybe Tia continued to torment him XD There's no escaping Tia!).
FK: As for the plot, don't make it so complicated for yourself. I don't know how most impromangas work, but I assume that initally (especially the first comic) you deal with only your characters, because you don't really know anyone else's characters. Sure, their profiles are up, but you don't really know what they'll do in any given situation.
To make it simple, deal with a small cast of characters and introduce them well. This allows the next artist to have their own characters interact with the characters that you've introduced. For example, introduce character A and B. The next artist has character C and D interact with A and B. In order to do this well, they need to have a good idea how A and B talk, walk, react, their personalities etc.
So ... here are my suggestions:
1) I'm not clear if we've actually decided to go with Magic vs Tech dynamic in an amalgamated school, but I'll just assume we have. Open up with two characters wandering the forest. They both glare at each other. Or maybe one's too timid to glare at the other, whatever. Anyway, Character A is a mage, while character B is a Techie. "A" bemoans the fact that their second day of school involves a fieldtrip where they play a giant game of "hide and go seek". The point of the game is an icebreaker of sorts. There are teams of Mage and Tech. They need to find other teams using their own unique powers. In short, Mage and Tech need to work together. "A" isn't happy with this arrangement, but he/she doesn't like to lose, so he either forces himself to work with "B", or he just abandons "B" (despite the fact that the rules clearly state that both members of each team have to participate, or the team loses. He'd rather beat everyone on his own and "lose" rather than working with "B" and winning).
End your set of pages with a fight between A and B and another team. Or A abandoning B and hearing B cry out as he/she is attacked. Then perhaps let the following artist decided whether A goes back to save B, or whether A abandons B.
2) This second idea again tries to set up the dynamic between Mage and Tech. Character A (let's s say a mage, cuz they're often whimps XD) is getting beaten up by a bunch of Techies. Just when it's almost lights out, Character A is saved by character B, who happens to be a Tech as well. The other Techies glare at him and throw verbal abuse his way, but they eventually leave. A thanks B profusely. B either makes happy friends with A (gag) or he stares at A with disdain and says something mean like "I don't like seeing weaklings beat on. It's too pathetic." (angst)
So personally, I think your job as creator of the first pages is to set the tone, establish some of the setting and the overall dynamic between the Mage and Tech. You don't need to describe every clique in the story. In other words, don't feel the need to describe their "first day of school", including teachers, classes, classmates. Just take a snapshot of that first day from the point of view of one character.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong ...
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Oh, and don't feel you need to draw what everyone else wants. The great thing about an impromanga is that everyone has their own ideas of where the story should go. If people start dominating the story with their own plotlines occuring exactly as they want them to happen, it's not really an impromanga IMHO. I know, I know, I say this after writing reams of my own plots >_> But impromangas are like a pictoral version of telephone. The first person will have their own ideas of where the story should go, but the next person will take that story and see something completely different. That's what make impromangas great. No one knows what to expect. What I said about my characters in the storyline will (hopefully) change depending on which way everyone takes the entire story.
Though I'm still partial to a grand motorbike entrance XD
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Post by faronkaos on Sept 30, 2006 22:30:55 GMT -5
Eee! ^^ Thanks, bb. I like your ideas. I think I can get to work without worry now. xD
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Post by Modesty on Oct 1, 2006 8:40:30 GMT -5
Hee...starting out is the hardest part. I warned you. (And I avoided it! XD) Setting up the scene is what's important to the first pages. Using your own characters would be best at first. Since you don't know who is next really, you can include whoever you want.
bluebug's explanations are exactly how impromanga's work. You can take a look at some of the first few pages of impromanga's on MAX to get an idea. (Although...in that situation you had to draw FOR someone other than yourself...in theory.)
bb, I think the motorbike/scoot entrace is doable. XD XD XD (I had this image of Weird Al's white and nerdy song...I'm sorry Dai...okay...you know I'm not). I like how the alt character is shaping up. While he's probably future owner of the school, perhaps his uncle still runs it. Dai could be more student like or at least interactive with them. Perhaps faking as a student to find out if the army is really shaping up as it should. Wow...fun ideas.
I know some people have posted lots of detail about their characters already, but if you are curious, just ask. Like I said, it isn't like a secret santa game...although...that is often fun. ^^ SURPRISE! Okay...>_> Now I have to go mope how my team lost the football game yesterday. *mope* Lucius: I thought you didn't care...and you liked the other quarterback. Mod: >< He cut his hair though. He had this cool, white pirate thing going on last year. It's not the same. Lucius; >_> sad mod...sad.
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Post by azalea on Oct 1, 2006 9:40:39 GMT -5
XD Tyde hits on Dai.... sorry random thought.
I'm really looking forward to seeing how the story starts off and pans out. Every artist seems to have there own unique mind sets as well as art styles.
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Post by Modesty on Oct 1, 2006 21:44:05 GMT -5
And I'm seeing DD running Angleo over with his motorbike and losing his wallet/personal item. Angelo being the nice guy that he is tries to stop him to return the wallet...using his willy wonka rip-off super extra sticky, tooth-cap ripping bubble gum to stop DD and have him fall off the bike and interaction ensues with DD blaming Gelo for ruining the bike AND stealing his wallet.
And then a giant squirrel comes and eats him. And then the squirrel flies away to fight off the bad guys.
Me and the squirrel is friends. ^^ (And tak's mortal enemy if I recall. ^_^)
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Post by James StarRunner on Oct 1, 2006 21:54:30 GMT -5
Hehehe... just you wait and see bluebug's fanart I have half finished! XD
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Post by faronkaos on Oct 1, 2006 21:57:06 GMT -5
And here I was, thinking you were sane, Mod. xD Guess I was wrong. Wow.
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Post by Modesty on Oct 1, 2006 22:18:51 GMT -5
Yay! Fanart for bb. ^_^ Yes...i like her characters so much I get excited when OTHER people draw them. Lucius: We get no love. Mod: <_< Shut up you 'ho. You have seriously the most fanart ever. Remember my one friend made that bottle label for your own brand of elven ale. Lucius: OH yeah...that was awesome. Mod: I got your face on a throw pillow and a chibi you on a mug and a print of you on the back of my t-shirt. Lucius: I am spoiled and never satisfied. Mod: dude you're not REALLY in this. You will be cooking in the background. Lucius: >_> House husband...hmmmm..
FK: No...I'm really the only sane person here. It's the rest of you that are just crazy. XD XD XD Too much invader zim today.
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